Your pain hurts. Her pain hurts. I may not understand either of your circumstances, but I’ve experienced pain too.

Division happens when we focus on comparing one pain as worse than another. But we come together when we listen and hear the horrible hurts we’ve each endured. And connect on how that pain affected our hearts.

Maybe it’s a lost job or a troubled child or discrimination or a sick parent or loneliness. . .whatever it may be, you are grieving and you may wonder if God cares.

And if He does care, where is He in the midst of your sadness?

My hope is that today’s podcast guest, Natasha Metzler, will give you fresh perspective on what God knows about pain, what breaks His heart and the promises He makes.

Pain's New Future

I “met” Natasha the moment we started recording the podcast. A mutual friend suggested I interview her and, boy, am I glad I did. Brilliant.

Natasha Metzler shares her story of continued infertility, a season of depression, and what she learned about God from reading the Bible in 28 days.

Natasha is wise, godly woman with a message of hope for anyone experiencing pain. She also gives you words to encourage someone you may know going through a painful situation.

You can find Natasha’s encouragement regularly at and Kindred Grace. She has also written two books (links in the show notes).


In the Spring of 2014 after we first recorded this episode, Natasha and her husband adopted an 8 year old girl from Guatemala. (read more of that story here). Very, very cool how God saw Natasha’s pain and gave it a new future even in the details. This year the Metzler family adopted another child. . .an 8 year old boy!


Connect with Natasha:

Blog :: Facebook :: Twitter


Show Notes:

How to listen to the podcast:

1.Listen on the blog. Click through to and click the play button at the beginning of this post.

2. Listen on your smartphone, iPad or iPod Touch – There are a lot of great podcasting apps. Apple has a free one (that I mentioned) in the app store, there is also one called Downcast. It allows you to search for shows, subscribe to them and even speed up the audio. If you don’t have an iDevice, you can listen via Stitcher.

3. Subscribe to the Podcast – access the podcast in iTunes (Click here to access via iTunes). You can also search for it on your smartphone app (like the ones listed above) and subscribe.